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I always thought that the Rapier had a much more modern hull design than its superstructure, and is perhaps why I always considered the Rapier to be a bit of an “odd” looking model?
When I was cutting some new replacement plywood cabin sides for the Rapier 1, I made a pattern for a much more “modern” looking superstructure that would suit the Rapier hull shape better.
I actually cut a pair of cabin sides out to this new shape, but in the end I simply replaced the damaged sides with a pair of original shaped parts.
As I restore Rapier 2, I will try-out some of the styling ideas on it to see how it would look and work.
I have already cut the bulkheads and keel to make an all new boat rather than modifying an existing Rapier, so I will build this model and learn what works as I try some of the ideas out on Rapier 2.
Hopefully I can come up with something that matches the superstructure to the hull shape better than the Rapier does.
Bob.
When I was cutting some new replacement plywood cabin sides for the Rapier 1, I made a pattern for a much more “modern” looking superstructure that would suit the Rapier hull shape better.
I actually cut a pair of cabin sides out to this new shape, but in the end I simply replaced the damaged sides with a pair of original shaped parts.
As I restore Rapier 2, I will try-out some of the styling ideas on it to see how it would look and work.
I have already cut the bulkheads and keel to make an all new boat rather than modifying an existing Rapier, so I will build this model and learn what works as I try some of the ideas out on Rapier 2.
Hopefully I can come up with something that matches the superstructure to the hull shape better than the Rapier does.
Bob.
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Some possible alternative superstructure design clues that could be considered for a Super Rapier came with these ideas that came from the Project 3 teams combined thoughts some 6 years or so ago .
At that time we were looking for a slightly shorter version of the Rapier (but bigger than the Stiletto) .
What remained the same was the superb hull form, although in this instance it was reduced in length slightly from the 39” length to being closer to 34” - not much different, but different enough and with a rather nice sloped transom that may suite the Super Rapier too?
The Super Rapier superstructure that I have drawn-up is quite dramatic and was drawn up as I was restoring Rapier 1 during the Covid time period.
This profile is further away from the original Rapier design than the Project 3 updates, but they are a very helpful reference.
The open cockpit is something that is being considered for use on the Rapier 2 rebuild that is already underway at the moment, but not for the Super Rapier.
In short, it is very difficult to stray too far away from the original when the brief retains the wheelhouse as being a desirable style feature.
With this in mind, the construction will include the cabin sides as shown in this original template and various thoughts and ideas to make it “different” - but better suited to the superb LesRo hull design.
Various detail changes that I have in mind will be tried and tested along the way to see what works and looks best.
Bob.
We got a little distracted with our interest in the excellent Solent Spear, but Chris has now started a new thread for this future project and so this one can return to the Super Rapier.
Bob.
Bob.
As we have most of the hull already it would be easy enough to produce the drawings for the stern and the superstructure to fit the hull.
Ideally I'd need to get a hull but could get the ball rolling by using the drawings for the timber hulled version. They don't need to be dead on anyway because if built in ply etc. they will be made to fit.
Need to start a new thread on this!
Hi Chris,
A framework like this could be inserted into the Huntsman 31 hull and notched into the revised transom shape to make it extra strong.
Bob.
Thinking more about your 3D printed insert for the transom to give the correct revised angle and shape etc, I think I could achieve this quite simple by inserting a 1/2” plywood transom quite easily and have the following benefits.
The plywood “plug” would be easy to cut and fit and would give good solid support to the hull sides once the transom has been cut-off.
The plywood ply could have formers added to it to form the correct curvature (much like the Swordsman transom construction).
The plywood insert could be notched to accept the deck stringers etc to add to the strength and integrity of the build.
Plywood bonds very well into glass fibre so there would be no unknown glueing problems. I am working on a 3D printed Conquerer r/c tank at the moment and super-glue is the only thing I have found that can stick it.
The cut-away glade fibre transom piece could even be used as a “wrap” (perhaps) if you wanted to keep a full glass fibre exterior?
Bob.
Unfortunately I do not have a 3D printing facility, but I could make an insert from 1/2” plywood that would do the same job and support the open rear section of the hull after the transom had been chopped-off.
There is no doubt that the Solent Spear would be such a nice model to build, own, and drive, that it could easily promote itself to the front of any current building queue.
Bob.
As regards the Solent Spear it would be my preference to use a fibreglass hull, as it would be nice to use the same material as the full-sized and have the chines and strakes moulded in. The superstructure could be timber of course.
But modifying the transom area will be a challenge. It could be done in timber I suppose and skimmed with P38 or maybe Plasticard?
But whilst washing up and looking out the kitchen window I've just had a flash of inspiration! Why not 3D print it and graft it onto the stern. This would be precise, strong and have the swim platform incorporated.
Thoughts?
I've already added another, the Christina, to the list, along with the water-jet and outboard builds. I'm not going to start them until I've done some more on the Faireys otherwise I'll never get them finished!
I'll start on the builds as we go into winter and have at least two of them on the go!
It is always good when any new design idea promotes such good discussions about other interesting projects (both future and past) that we enjoy musing over together.
If only we had more time - we could make them all!
Meanwhile, my original dilemma about which Super Rapier to build remains.
Chris has made such a good job of his stretched Stiletto / slightly shrunken Rapier drawings that the choice about which one to work on first remains as big a problem to decide on as it ever was.
Both are Super Rapiers in their own way, and they are not especially different in size either, but as the few inches added to the Sprite have shown, those few extra inches make a bigger difference to the overall size of the model than could be fairly anticipated.
Another reason for considering Chris’s design first is that I really like working from his drawings as his small attention to detail (such as his integrated rudder mount in the keel shape) all contribute to making an enjoyable build that fits together very nicely.
Both options have their strong points, and I have already cut the cabin sides for my version Super Rapier…..and I have a doner Rapier kit to copy all the other parts from and to sell-on for somebody else to enjoy afterwards.
Not an easy choice and I will take another good look at Chris’s drawings when I get home next, but I can see both models quietly making progress in the background as like Chris, I enjoy having more than one project “on the go” at the same time!
Bob.